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Referendum 71
Duck BRB goin' to space
This bill would expand the rights, responsibilities, and obligations accorded state-registered same-sex and senior domestic partners to be equivalent to those of married spouses, except that a domestic partnership is not a marriage.

Poll #1472284 Ref 71 poll

Should this bill be:

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Remember, participating in an open poll (or signing a petition) means that your answer is not anonymous. Your anonymity is guaranteed when you actually vote.

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I'll add that I fully believe any initiative that votes to reduce the rights of fellow Americans is unpatriotic.

Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Unless you're gay.

I'm curious to know your goal in posting this. Can't you predict how your readers will respond?

Mostly I'm curious about people who would vote no so we can talk about it, if they care to share that info. I think it's important to reach out to the right people instead of constantly preaching to the choir. I also believe it's good to know who is only pretending to have your back.

But it's voluntary, so nobody has to participate.

crap I forgot I don't live in Seattle nor allowed to vote.
we'll just pretend.

It's a Washington State initiative, not just limited to Seattle (otherwise I wouldn't be able to vote). I know you live in CA but pretend that you were a WA state voter.

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I think it comes down to whether or not you think homosexuality is a choice. If you're born that way, its your right as a human to be afforded all the other rights as everyone else. Period end of sentence.
As a Christian, the Bible says homosexuality is a sin, and that sin is a choice we make. Therefore homosexuality must be a choice. And if it is a choice, then people should not consider it a "civil right", but rather an elective decision. There are tons of subgroups in society that I won't pass legislature to accommodate because they selectively choose to belong to that group.

If its a civil rights issue my vote would be yes, but I do not believe it to be as such.

By your logic, I believe it to be a civil rights issue because this is a nation where you are free to be a christian, not a christian nation.

Also, you have no business telling me I chose to be gay. It simply isn't true and never will be, no matter what you say or believe.

Edited at 2009-10-17 07:57 am (UTC)

Of course, religion is a choice, too, and it's wrong to discriminate on the basis of religion. Ditto political affiliation.

Fortunately, civil rights don't actually rest on whether a characteristic is inborn and immutable or elective, and never have.

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TBH it pisses me off w/re: how much has been wasted on this issue. millions of dollars and human energy has been/is being put into it. We should be ashamed, upset, disappointed, etc. that a handful of people put all of this waste into motion.

I hate to constantly bring it up, and by no means am I suggesting that this state is perfect (oh god it is not lol), but Nevada passed the same legislation this year. Anti-gay people don't care. There's no effort to put it on a ballot. There are various theories about why; they range from the thought that NV is not a "battleground" state for gay rights issues and CA/WA are more important to the idea that NV residents are truly libertarian in the sense of "don't mess with my rights and I won't mess with yours."

Anyway, it looks like the polls for ref 71 suggest that the vote is going to be very close. It'll probably end up in the courts because that's where a lot of civil rights issues have been decided in the past.

Man it is such a waste of money. Money that could be used to buy me a nice tv and some new shoes.

Rejected, because a bill for same sex marriage should be approved.

I want the same legal rights as a heterosexual couple, which this would provide. I don't care what it's called.

What you may not understand is that we already have these rights in WA, and this was put on the ballot in order to attempt to take them away.

I'm not even an e-friend but I voted and I read the question wrong =(

Just putting my excuse in print here because I feel like an ass.

I can edit the post to say so if you like! :)

Also, as I said earlier, it's not surprising when it's read wrong. We were granted these rights back in May, and this was put on the ballot in an attempt to take them away. The referendum is confusing and they also lied to people to get them to sign the petition to put it on the ballot.

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